Baba & I – A ‘Sandeha Nivarini’ Conversation

Questions galore – our puzzled mind is like a cluttered closet housing thought of varied nature, often confusing our being. How often we hope, pray and wish for the arrival of that wise one, who comes and clears off all such debris, thus training to fly free, rather than ‘fleeing’. And how about The Supreme Incarnate donning this form of the wise one, clearing doubts-many, doubts -all? 

Devotee: Baba is responsible for the entire Universe, not just this world.

Sri Sathya Sai: It is like this: Baba is the switch. The switch is turned on and all goes forward automatically. As the key is turned in a car, all parts work automatically. In similar way, the Universe is automatically regulated. So called miracles are not miracles, nor do they prove Divinity! Baba’s endless work in all the worlds—easy, no weight, always happy—that is the miracle.

Devotee: Baba is responsible for other worlds as well, is He not?

Sri Sathya Sai: Yes. Saints, Rishis, Yogis, everywhere. He Is attending to the guidance protection and welfare of these, wherever they may be.

Devotee: Baba has the inconceivably immense task of the Universe. How can He afford to spend time talking to people like us?

Sri Sathya Sai: Baba, with His limitless bodies, Is everywhere doing the tasks, a thousand heads, hands, feet “Sahasra Seersha Purushah Sahasraksha Sahasrapad” It is just this body that sits here talking to you. That is Baba’s omnipresence.

Devotee: All the forms and personalities one sees around are impermanent. Baba also appears to be one of these objects.

Sri Sathya Sai: The difference is that men come into bodies with tendencies and the results of actions. Baba takes this body without any tendencies, completely free, no desires, no attachments, always happy.

Devotee: When one sees Baba as a form amongst all perishable forms, cannot one point to Him as the One Reality amongst all these impermanent dream—like forms?

Sri Sathya Sai: Yes. The One Reality is Baba, Baba means, Being – Awareness – Bliss – Atma, the One Reality.

Devotee: The Avatar is never born, but, He appears to take birth in a body, which then gradually grows to full size in the ordinary way. Does the Avatar have additional similar bodies?

Sri Sathya Sai: No. The Avatar takes only the one body, such as you have described. For, example, there is one Sun; but, the Sun’s rays are everywhere. Are the rays of the sun different from the Sun?

Devotee: Just: under the skies, about an inch, there seems to be a mirror; when I see Baba outside, I also see Him in that mirror. The reflection mirror mirrors Baba’s every move. Of these two, the Baba I see with my eyes, and the Baba of the inside reflection, which is the most real?

Sri Sathya Sai: Consciousness is a reflection. If pure, it is a clear reflection. It is by the Sankalpa of Baba that the reflection is seen.

Devotee: Is it to the inside Baba that prayers and devotion should be addressed?

Sri Sathya Sai: When Baba is found with in, He will be seen everywhere outside.

Devotee: When one enquires within, “I” is found to be “I”; that I is thought to be oneself. But, then, it seems to me that “I” is not me at all; but, is Baba.

Sri Sathya Sai: That is correct. “I” is Baba. Have no doubt. You and Baba are One. Not the tendencies and so on. But, the essential “you” and Baba are one and the same…”I” is Baba.

II Samastha Lokah Sukhino Bhavantu II